Category: First Floor Demo

Gutting the first floor to make way for a new floor plan

Math Time

In addition to meeting with the architect and getting quotes from the structural engineers, we’re getting ready to demo the first floor. We started by removing the plaster and lath from one wall in the living room. The purpose was two-fold. It gave us our first peek at the inside of the exterior sheathing, which told us it may be in good enough shape to leave in place. We were concerned it might be rotted and if we had to replace it that would complicate our plan to use spray foam insulation.

The second purpose was to estimate how much plaster we’ll need to get hauled away. When you rent a dumpster you want to know how many yards, how many tons, and how many days. So, I filled a bucket with plaster from the wall and weighed it, getting roughly 25 lbs. Then I bagged the plaster from the one wall in contractor bags, two buckets per bag. When it was all done, there were five bags, one of which had more like two and a half buckets worth. In other words, the one wall had something like 275 lbs of plaster on it.

Here’s where it gets fun, assuming you like math. The wall is 11′ 5″ × 10′, so dividing we get about 2.4 lbs / sq ft. The ceiling is fairly easy if we fudge on interior walls, 20′ × 45′ × 2.4 lbs = ~1 ton. All of the walls are 10′, so instead of doing lots of calculations I’ll just work out linear feet and multiply the result. Front and back walls 20′ × 2. Side walls plus center wall (both sides) = 45′ × 4. For interior walls we need to add both sides of all walls, so on the larger side we have 12 × 4 + 7 × 2 and on the smaller side there are 3 walls separating the bedrooms and foyer, so roughly 8 × 6, then there’s one more wall along the bathroom that’s 7′ long, and again we have both sides. I think that’s 344.

Pure Excitement

344′ × 10′ × 2.4 lbs = ~4 tons. We had 1 ton for the ceiling, so we’re up to 5. Unfortunately, there’s also drywall on top of the plaster in a lot of the rooms, plus we’ve got all of the trim, floors, subfloor, some cement board left from the basement, and a random assortment of other crap that I honestly can’t estimate with any accuracy (how accurate any of these measurements are is questionable). Obviously we need more than 5 tons. The question is how much? It’s at least 6 tons, it’s probably 7 but is it 8? Doing the math gives us a starting point but there’s a lot of unknown.

The good news is that as long as we have an idea, we can order a dumpster for the approximate amount and they’ll charge us for the overage. As long as we have a number to start with we’re not going in blind. The fun part is that we want to have the dumpster for as short a period as possible to save money, so we have to figure out the fastest way to remove 6 tons of plaster and drywall. We’re thinking Demolition Party.

Wall Dis-assembly

The Before

We decided the best way to find out whether we needed to replace the exterior sheathing was to take down a wall and have a look. Back when we were getting rid of the cockroaches, I went through the first floor and hammered holes in the walls so the exterminator could spray into the wall cavities. We’ve been using the first floor living room to store empty boxes in various states of being broken down, along with the packing material that was in them. The first step was to clear all that stuff out.

Picked Up

Wouldn’t it be nice if it was as easy to pick up as just looking at the next picture in a series? But I digress. After things were picked up I put down heavy plastic so that cleaning up the ensuing mess would be easier. Our friend Mike gave us two huge rolls of leftover plastic and we’ve been using it for a variety of things, including temporary window shades, floor runners over the sticky floor (we pulled up the peel and stick tiles on the first floor), and now clean-up tarps. Who knows, we may actually use it for its intended purpose as a vapor barrier!

Plastic Sheeting

Now it was time to get to the meat of it: removing the wall. Almost immediately I discovered this was one of the walls that had been drywalled over. I tried to pull everything down at once, but quickly decided it was better to take it down in layers, if for no other reason then to take photos along the way.

Drywall Removed

It became clear that the reason for the drywall was a huge section of missing plaster in the center of the wall. In fact, the plaster across the whole middle area was incredibly brittle and fell off with the slightest touch. Toward the sides it was a bit more solid and required some prying and pounding with the crowbar. However, that’s only necessary if you’re taking it off in layers. Subsequent walls will use the 2×4 lever method that I used to remove the lath. The plaster is yellow because it has a couple layers of old wallpaper on it. It wasn’t clear what the original pattern was since it was all fairly deteriorated.

De-Plastered

Removing the plaster left a giant cloud of dust in the room and I had to wait until morning to take the final picture with the lath removed. Taking down the lath started with me pulling off individual strips and trying to get them off in one piece. I quickly tired of this since it was slow and tedious. I remembered reading about a technique to remove plaster lath where you put a short 2×4 board into the wall behind the lath and then pry it forward, pulling all the lath free as you go. The spray of plaster bits and dust wasn’t the greatest, and I had to shampoo twice to get it all out of my hair, but it was effective at getting the lath off the wall.

Down to the Studs

The result of my work was a huge mess that I’ll have to clean up. I want to save the lath for burning in the fire pit, so I need to get the nails out of it. That will be fun. The drywall is already de-nailed and I just need to bag it up and throw it out as we did with the basement. I have plans in store for the plaster though. I’m going to fill a five gallon bucket and weigh it, then figure out how many five gallon buckets I have. Then I’ll use the size of this wall to extrapolate approximately how many tons of dumpster we’ll need.