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Basement Floor Prep – Stone and Insulation

Mario, our concrete mason, came out on Saturday and put down the stone that makes up the bottom layer of our new basement floor. I had hoped that he would also install the layer of rigid foam insulation that makes up the next layer, but apparently that’s not in his menu of services, so I was on the hook to do it myself. More than that, he wanted to come back on Monday to put down the plastic and the mesh, so I needed to get it all installed on Sunday. My friend Dean and his dad, Hector, once again offered to help.

Insulation delivery

Insulation delivery

The first challenge was getting the insulation. We’re using 4′ x 8′ panels of 2″ thick XPS (extruded polystyrene) foam, which are commonly sold in different densities. The higher density foam is better for under concrete because it doesn’t compress as much. Unfortunately it’s not stocked in as many places and I was buying 30 panels. I placed an order Saturday morning at a Home Depot that had “99+” in stock. By late Saturday afternoon the order still wasn’t ready, so I called them. After being on hold for 15 minutes I was told they “couldn’t find it” and apparently had zero in stock. There was only one other Home Depot near me that had enough in stock, so I switched the order to them. They had it ready by 6:30. Unfortunately they didn’t have a truck available, so I wound up renting a truck from a Menards that was nearby (they didn’t carry the foam). I went to Menards and got the truck, drove to Home Depot, manhandled the five-foot-tall stack of foam onto the truck, drove the truck home and dropped off the foam in the back yard, drove back to Menards to return the truck, and finally drove back home.

Sunday morning came earlier than expected (due to the Daylight Savings time change) and Dean and Hector showed up. We started at the front of the basement and worked toward the back, using the hand tamper and a rake to even out the stone base in places. The concrete curb around the footing and the column footings have rough edges that we couldn’t get the foam completely flush with, but we worked around them as well as we could. The bigger challenge was the plumbing. Because the plumbing in the basement drains to an ejector pit, the pipes aren’t particularly deep. That meant in addition to cutting holes for the pipes themselves, we had to allow for horizontal pipes and fittings as well, not to mention the sump basin and ejector pit. Overall the process went smoothly and after several hours we had everything installed. I did some foam sculpting to cover up the bathroom plumbing group and I’m pretty pleased with the end result. We were frugal enough with the foam panels that I have seven left over to return. Since they cost me $32.50 each, I’m happy about that.

Insulation installed

Insulation installed

Mario is back today to put down the plastic and mesh, and then Lester (our radiant contractor) will be out next week to attach the PEX tubing. Mario should be able to pour shortly thereafter. We’re still working on the painting and prep for the front window and back door. I hope to have posts about those projects shortly. A big thanks go out to Dean and Hector for all their help!

Basement Dig Out – Part 3

Sarah using the digger

Sarah using the digger

I’ll be honest; I’m not sure how many “parts” to the dig out there are, but this is Part 3. It kind of feels like it’ll go on forever. We filled our fifth heavy debris dumpster in a row and took back the mini-excavator. I’d like to say that means we’re done, but instead I’m saying that “principle excavation” is complete, which is just another way of saying that we’re not done. What remains to do is finish clearing the dirt from the footings, remove a few piles of loose dirt including the dirt ramp we used to get the digger out the back door, and level everything, probably by renting one of those heavy rollers you fill with water. The bottom line is there’s more than a few wheelbarrows of dirt yet to haul out, and a lot more work to do.

Digging for new back steps

Digging for new back steps

The last thing we used the digger for was to excavate a pit behind the house. This is where the new outside basement steps will go. Having the steps go up to the left makes more sense since it’s toward the sidewalk that runs along the side of the house and to the currently nonexistent garage, but it requires some reconfiguration, by which I mean busting out the existing concrete retaining walls and stairs and then putting in a new one. With the steps going to the left, we can eventually put a deck on the right side of the house.

In addition to the final clearing and leveling, we also need to clean up the inside edge of the footings so that it’s even enough to finish the walls down the road. Exactly how we do that “clean up” remains to be seen, but it’s stone, so probably hammer and chisel, concrete saw, and angle grinder. Of course after everything is nice  and clean and level we have to dig trenches for the plumbing and weeping system, so we’ll be busy for a while yet.

Because we have to take out the concrete walls and there’s undoubtedly more dirt to clear for the stairs, there’s a strong likelihood we’ll need yet another dumpster in the not-too-distant future. Also, just a heads up to anyone planning an extended rental from Home Depot: a “month” is four weeks, so if you bring it back in thirty days it costs extra.

Basement Dig Out – Part 2

Ramp to basement

Ramp to basement

I’ve got this great new workout you should try; it’s called “pushing wheelbarrows full of clay up a steep ramp”. In the last two weeks we’ve filled two 10-yard heavy debris dumpsters, emphasis on the heavy. Tomorrow they swap the full dumpster for an empty one and it starts again, so this is basically our day off. We’re getting one per week and I expect that to continue for the next couple weeks.

Second dumpster filled

Second dumpster filled

Our original wheel barrow was old when we got it and was not up to the rigors of this project.  The bucket tore loose from the frame and we set it aside. Sarah’s dad lent us his wheelbarrow, but it’s looking a little crooked these days. Sarah bought two new wheelbarrows, and between the three we’ve been putting them to use. I hauled 30 loads in two hours Saturday evening. I’d guess each dumpster is about 150 loads, since we can only fill the wheelbarrows about half-full and still push them up the basement ramp. The ramps are working well, though the one up from the basement is the tough one, especially when it gets slick from the rain and mud. The ramp I built to get up to the top of the dumpsters is great, though. That was time well spent.

Digger and wheelbarrows

Digger and wheelbarrows

The digger (mini excavator) has proven its worth too. Every time we grab a shovel to manually dig around the footings we’re given a taste of what the task would have been like without it, and it’s just awful. Digging with the backhoe on the other hand is a breeze. Hauling up bucketfuls of heavy clay, the hardest part is dropping clods into the wheelbarrows without knocking them over (especially the crooked one) and not digging too deep. I used my laser level to confirm the footings are pretty consistent in height, so we just need to dig even with the bottom of them, about 14 inches total.

Excavation

Excavation

Looking forward, we’ve gotten about a third of the dirt removed. With the dumpster we get tomorrow we can get most of the next third removed. That means it will be time to move the water heater and the laundry upstairs so we can pull up the last section of concrete floor. I’m taking off some time from work next week to get that done as well as level what we’ve dug so far. Our goal is to finish with the digger by the weekend after Memorial Day, which includes digging out the new back steps. May’s looking pretty busy!

Beam Project: Footings

Settle in kids, because this is a long post. First off, I finished leveling the back beam, despite one of the hydraulic jacks slowly losing pressure. I picked up another jack post since the back beam sagged in the middle and I wanted to prop it up with the jack. I also removed the last of the stud wall under the beam, meaning it was now completely supported by the jack posts and hydraulic jacks. That in itself felt like an accomplishment. Then I finished building the temporary support wall, making it officially a pain in the ass to do laundry.

Temporary wall

Temporary wall

With these preparations complete, last weekend Eriq came down and together we cut the concrete floor using a circular saw with a masonry blade. The plan was to get the two holes completely dug out in preparation for pouring the new concrete footings. Unfortunately once we had the concrete floor out we found old stone footings under the floor in both locations.

Original footing

Original footing

Removing these footings proved challenging and we wound up spending the rest of the afternoon prying them out of the holes. The task was made more difficult because all of the ground under the house seems to be solid clay. Fortunately that means the holes stayed nice and straight and didn’t cave in, but digging in it was especially challenging. Initially we were trying to break up the old footings, but stone proved harder than concrete and we ran to Home Depot to get a longer bit for the rotary hammer, hoping to drill holes through it and then break it into chunks. Once we drilled the holes we noticed the whole thing was moving and realized we could pull it out in one piece.

Stone footing

Stone footing

The second one we didn’t bother drilling holes in and just pulled it out. The stone footings were limestone but one of them had a sandstone cap on it, perhaps to help manage drainage. The strange thing is that the floor was poured over these, so whatever columns had originally sat on these were long gone. I planned to dig the rest of the holes during the week, but I ran out of time since I also had to pick up concrete.

The footings specs are 30″x30″x18″, and since there are two, that wound up being thirty-two 80lb bags of 5000 psi concrete, plus I bought a couple extra just in case. Combining the limits of the trunk of the car with the $5 off $50 purchase coupons we had meant we had to break it into several trips. All told we spent around $150 on concrete. I spent Friday evening and Saturday morning digging the footings out, though when my friend Mike showed up with the concrete mixer he said they weren’t wide enough at the bottom. I had failed to employ measuring tape technology to confirm the holes didn’t taper as they went down, so it took us a couple more hours to get the holes right.

Measured holes

Measured holes

Next Mike made up the rebar. Because he does road construction he skipped the regular method of just floating in rebar as you go and built rebar cages to go into the footings, set on concrete blocks to keep them a couple of inches off the bottom. Assembling these went pretty quickly, but it was after we placed them and remeasured that he decided we needed to make the holes deeper so there would be enough concrete over the top of the rebar.

Rebar cage

Rebar cage

That meant we had to take them back out and spend more time digging out the holes, adding to the already massive pile of clay in the back yard that we took out in five gallon buckets. We’ll need to figure out where and how to get rid of that. My initial plan of just spreading it around in the yard was hatched before I realized it was all clay and not soil.

Footing depth

Footing depth

We verified our depth and placed nails at the edge to keep track of how high the concrete needed to be and to make sure it was level. I determined the depth to dig by starting with the outside wall footings. The bottom of the outside wall footing is the maximum we can eventually dig down the floor without underpinning. Then we’ll add a layer of stone and rigid foam to insulate the floor, which will have radiant heating. The bottom of the floor is the top of the column footing, so from there we measured down 18 inches. The laser level has proved invaluable for nearly every step of the process. I think even if I only bought it for this one project it would have been worth it, but I know it will be handy when we do the subfloor, the cabinets… everything really. I put it in the corner and from there had a level line that reached the corner outside wall footing we had dug out as well as the two column footings we were currently digging, making it easy to keep track of our depth given the fact the floor isn’t level at all.

Filling with concrete

Filling with concrete

We discovered the garden hose in the garage was full of ice and we couldn’t use it without waiting for it to thaw so we ran to Home Depot and picked up another one. Then we found the outside spigot was frozen and had to hook up to the faucet on the first floor. Finally we were able to start the concrete operation. Mike mixed up the bags in the portable mixer while I brought bags from the garage and took buckets into the basement. He added portland cement to the mix in order to get a better consistency, about three cups per bag. As we were finishing the first footing it was looking like we might be shy on concrete but in the end we had two bags left over, exactly the overage I had calculated.

Finished footing

Finished footing

Mike used his concrete vibrator to remove any air pockets and even out the consistency and then troweled off the surface to make it smooth. It certainly doesn’t need to be perfect since these will be covered when we put in the floor, but they look nice just the same. This picture also gives you an idea of how much ceiling height we’ll be gaining. The new floor will be four inches thick on top of the footing, so it’ll be about six inches lower than it is now. That doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s the difference between having to duck under the beam for me at 6’2″ and being able to stand up straight for Sarah’s brother who’s 6’8″.

Plastic cover

Plastic cover

We put some plastic on top of the concrete to help it cure more slowly. It needs seven days to cure, but it will be longer than that before we put the new columns on them. Swapping the wooden beam for the new steel beam and installing the columns is probably about a month out since we need to coordinate a lot of people to come and assist.

Dirt pile

Dirt pile

Once we had finished I spent the whole evening yesterday just sitting on the couch. I’m really sore after digging the holes, carrying out the dirt, and then carrying in all the concrete, and I’m sure Mike is too, but we’ve reached a milestone we’ve been working toward for a while. It feels really good to have something to show for all the work and finally have a piece (okay, two pieces) of the new house in place. The only other thing in the entire house that is the “end product” is the electric service, and we didn’t do that ourselves, so this is kind of a first for us. We’d both like to extend a big thanks to both Eriq and Mike for all their help with the footings.

Beam Project: Measurements

The first step is to get all of the precise measurements and check how far off of level we are. I bought a laser distance measure and a self-leveling cross line laser level. These were each about $100 each and in addition to being incredibly helpful for this project will be useful for many of the projects going forward.

Checking beam level

I started by checking the beam for level. I drew a mark under each floor joist along the laser line and then measured from the joist down. I then marked which joists were lower or higher than average. The variance was about a half inch in either direction. Then I turned the level the other direction to check the floor joists. I found that the floor joists sagged by about an inch from the outside wall to the beam. Determining level without the laser would have been painstaking and not as accurate. I have a six foot level, but using it to find the level of the whole basement would have sucked. Since you can’t trust the beam, the joists, or the floor to be level, all you can do is find variance. This will be especially important when I dig the footings so I know how deep to make them.

Checking joist level

I also measured the length of the beam. It is pocketed into the brick wall at either end, so I slid a piece of metal in to determine how deep the pocket is and added that to the total, which is roughly 44′. There will be two columns, so we’ll split the beam into three sections. The challenge in positioning the columns is that the floor above will also have open spans, so those columns need to be directly above the columns in the basement. The spans should be as short as possible, because their load bearing capacity drops exponentially with length. I referred to the floor plans, but a couple of the dimensions were off, so I had to adjust to get the exact locations of the columns. I determined the longest span will be 16′. Conveniently you can multiply 16′ x 24 lbs and get the weight: 384 lbs. This job will require some help.

Marking the footings

Finally I marked out the location of the footings on the floor. Unfortunately, there are studs and a 4×4 in the way, so I need to build the temporary wall so I can remove it. That means it’s time to get some jack posts and crank up the house.